Conservative Friends
A focus on traditional Quaker theology and practice, both from Conservative Friends and other branches. A useful introduction is the Short History of Conservative Friends. News and events are being covered over on ConservativeFriend.org, an outreach project from Ohio Friends. Lively discussion can be had at the ConservativeQuakers Forum.
YouTube: A personal introduction to Conservative Friends
Having nothing to do with the political definition of the Rush Limbaugh conservativism, Conservative Quakers are one of th. branches of the Religious Society of Friends. The speaker considers hersel. "rowdy Conservative Friend". (Posted by martin_kelley on 2008-06-03T17:32:51Z.)
YouTube: Quakers: Woolly-minded liberals?
A British Friend give. video response t. recent editorial. (Posted by martin_kelley on 2008-04-30T20:28:36Z.)
Quakerthink Kevin with the scary tale of the Curse of the "Early Friends"
The problem with the Curse of the Early Friends is that very soon it seems to becom. metric. canon, an instant tool for assessing the validity of an assertion. Folks, not one of the Early Friends ever experience. flush toilet, either. (Posted by martin_kelley on 2008-02-26T16:21:06Z.)
A Snapshot of Friends in the Americas from Friends Journal
The general secretary of Friends World Committee for Consultatio. Section of the Americas, Margaret Fraser, looks at the trends of Quaker meeting membership (FUM, FGC, EFI, Conservative, and independent; programmed and unprogrammed) in the Americas over (Posted by friends.journal on 2008-01-31T14:34:27Z.)
Robin recommends Drayton's "Getting Rooted" pamphlet
One of the best points for me was about maintaining the balance between finding our roots but not idolizing the past. It's good for anyone who ha. tendency to think all the really good Quakers died before 1800. (Posted by martin_kelley on 2008-01-25T23:59:35Z.)
Will T explains Quaker perfection to the NFL crowd
Say that sin is like committin. penalty. You, even your whole team could play an entire game without havin. penalty called on them. In that regard you have played perfectly. But you might have fumbled the ball, thrown interceptions... (Posted by martin_kelley on 2008-01-18T12:42:23Z.)
Light Simon on "deification" theology in early Fox
It all depends, however, on how we read [it]. If "dwelling in the light" is bein. nice person, following God's commands, and otherwise being respectful o. power then this is no. text about deification. This light seems, however, to be transforming. (Posted by martin_kelley on 2007-12-23T18:44:37Z.)
Liz posts Marshall channeling "Early Minsiter" reminding us who's in charge of gospel order
Just speaking personally, it seems to me that the answers to all these questions become fairly obvious, once we understand that it is God who is in charge and not ourselves! (Posted by martin_kelley on 2007-12-06T01:35:06Z.)
Light and Silence Simon on early Friend's embarrassing ethusiasms
George Fox spen. substantial part of his early career facing down blasphemy charges. Perhaps more important, later Quakers (including Fox, to some extent) played down some of the things Fox said that got him into this trouble in the first place. (Posted by martin_kelley on 2007-11-16T14:02:22Z.)
Will T on Barclay's "Day of Visitation"
"The basic idea... is that there i. period of time in everyone's life when they are open to hearing the voice of the Divine and acting on it. If they are attentive and obedient to this Divine Seed, it will grow and flourish in them..." (Posted by martin_kelley on 2007-09-26T15:40:57Z.)
Chronicler on spiritual gifts
"[T]he purpose of spiritual gifts is to direct the recipient to Christ Jesus (the giver of the gift), not to the practitioner. Always measure thy faithfulness against thy callin. never measure thy faithfulness against that of another person." (Posted by martin_kelley on 2007-08-24T12:44:34Z.)
Martin K: What Convergence means to Ohio Conservative
'it's useful to learn that there'. growing movement of Friends from outside Conservative circles (however defined) who are sensing there's something missing and looking to traditional Quakerism for answers.' (Posted by lizopp on 2007-08-08T13:02:27Z.)
Claire: NCYM(C) Yearly Meeting Sessions and YAF panel 2007
'Wha. do remember is having the opportunity [o. panel of YAFs] to name issues tha. had growing up in my home meeting, and to name things that prevent me from having conversations and relationships with older Friends.' (Posted by lizopp on 2007-08-01T12:14:30Z.)
Mark Wutka on visiting North Carolina Conservative a second time
"There were remarkably few conversations about 'what is Quakerism'.... For the most part, it was beyond that, and was at the place of 'are we serving God as best we can?'.. felt that there wa. good balance of inward-vs-outward service to God." (Posted by martin_kelley on 2007-07-17T00:56:42Z.)
Brooklyn Qr Rich on Barclay's understanding of sin and the fall
"For many Quakers it is an article of unofficial dogma that "Quakers don't believe in original sin", and some appear not to believe in "sin" at all... It may well come a. shock to se. discussion of "the Fall" in an early Quaker writer." (Posted by martin_kelley on 2007-07-13T20:25:55Z.)
Ohio YM clerk Seth H on the history of Conservative Gatherings and this year's plain contingent
"An interesting aspect of the worship was the mixture of plain-dressed Friends and those who did not wear plain clothing.... In fact, the number of plain Friends present was probably the largest such gathering of plain Friends held in many decades." (Posted by martin_kelley on 2007-07-04T19:51:59Z.)
Photos from the Conservative Friends Gathering 2007
At the 2007 Conservative Friends Gathering in Lancaster County, PA, hosted by Keystone Fellowship Friends Meeting. via QuakerQuaker.org (Posted by martin_kelley on 2007-07-04T19:51:45Z.)
ConservativeFriend.org report on recent gathering
"The whole point of the Gathering is to worship together, to eat together, to speak, pray.., and to build bridges among us to link us across the larger distances that Conservative Friends now travel to meet in this way." via QuakerQuaker. (Posted by martin_kelley on 2007-07-04T19:51:34Z.)
Conservative Friends Gathering, 6/22-24, 2007
South Central Pennsylvania: "Time simply to walk and talk, share experiences, give and receive eldership and counsel." (Posted by martin_kelley on 2007-04-17T16:44:00Z.)
Wess on learning the language of other Friends
"Being there made me realize that many of the Questions posed by unprogrammed Friends are not the same question. have [and] reminded me tha. part of bein. 'convergent friend' is learnin. new language, knowing the language of the other is one of ou (Posted by martin_kelley on 2007-03-09T00:37:43Z.)
Marshall M on Friends and doctrines
"Yes, we don't have creeds. But no, we do have doctrines, dogmas, and confessions of faith. We once even ha. catechism. Permit me to explain." (Posted by martin_kelley on 2007-02-26T15:49:33Z.)
Mark W on Quaker texts online
Cites Google Books and Earlham's digital library (Posted by martin_kelley on 2007-02-22T16:40:39Z.)
Craig thanks his liberal Friends
'So, as 'conservative' a. am and as much a. get all bent out of shape with my liberal friends. love them. Today. give thanks for all those liberal folks in my life. If it weren't for all of you. would have never reached the contentment and jo. (Posted by martin_kelley on 2007-02-14T22:23:00Z.)
Quakerboy Craig on misunderstood Quaker faith
"There is hardl. Meeting that passes that someone does not refer to this 'God in everyone' idea. Yet, when we misuse the term, we rob it of its cleansing and restorative power. It becomes just another cute little idea and joins the ranks of other bumper (Posted by martin_kelley on 2007-02-12T21:07:54Z.)
Max Hanson on corporate discipline, Quakerism's "dirty secret"
"I believe there are many lessons to be learned by asking how Quakerism gave up slavekeeping... Unless the Society of Friends had been willing effectively to say, 'this is our standard of conduct, and those who do not abide by it are not Friends,' it woul (Posted by martin_kelley on 2007-02-10T17:59:52Z.)
Micah B on the spiritual forces of evil
"We cannot understand our calling a. community to b. spiritual army, following the Lamb wherever he goes, until we recognize the forces of rebellion and lust that assail us and the world we live in." (Posted by martin_kelley on 2007-02-07T16:19:27Z.)
Simon St.Laurent on Fox's borderline illiteracy
"Perhaps it would be worthwhile for those of us writing on Quakerism to reflect regularly on the limited value of scholarship in the remarkable happenings of early Quakerism." (Posted by martin_kelley on 2007-01-16T16:11:26Z.)
Simon St. Laurent recommends "Notes on George Fox"
Says New Foundation Fellowship's notes by Lewis Benson "ar. tremendous help in finding what Fox had to say o. given subject" (Posted by martin_kelley on 2007-01-11T21:20:02Z.)
Simon St.Laurent on Fox , the Trinity and explaining Quakers to other Christians
"It's clear that Fox didn't spen. tremendous amount of time theorizing about the Trinity specifically." (Posted by martin_kelley on 2007-01-11T21:18:13Z.)
Zach and the abandoned Quaker revolution
"I'll go on record as saying tha. don't think any Friend I've met or any branch truly knows that source now, not b. long shot, and that the assumption that we modern Friends can claim the earliest Friends as our spiritual ancestors has as muc. (Posted by martin_kelley on 2006-09-06T21:04:32Z.)
New Blog: Chronicler's Minutae from Seth Hinshaw
Clerk of Ohio YM (Conservative) hopes to blog through sessions: "I hope to post here near the end of each day to tel. little of what has happened for those interested Friends who are unable to attend." (Posted by martin_kelley on 2006-08-15T13:26:10Z.)
Simon SL on Woolman's ecumenical thoughts
Was Woolman the start of liberal Quakerism? (Posted by martin_kelley on 2006-07-25T13:20:01Z.)
Will T and Robert Barclay wonder how we know when it's God
"[I]n spite of all the questions. can testify that Robert Barclay is right. There are times that God has opened things to me an. have known them to be right. Sometimes they have been insights about myself... When this has happened there has bee. dee (Posted by martin_kelley on 2006-07-21T14:46:53Z.)
Charles of Living Water on some tensions between Christocentric Quakerism and activism
"This secular focus causes many Friends. fear, to forget that the battle between good and evil is not an outward political one any more than it is an outward military one. We must first be strong in our spiritual selves -. vessel for Christ -- empt. (Posted by martin_kelley on 2006-07-13T05:38:16Z.)
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YouTube: A personal introduction to Conservative Friends
Having nothing to do with the political definition of the Rush Limbaugh conservativism, Conservative Quakers are one of th. branches of the Religious Society of Friends. The speaker considers hersel. "rowdy Conservative Friend". (Posted by martin_kelley on 2008-06-03T17:32:51Z.)
YouTube: Quakers: Woolly-minded liberals?
A British Friend give. video response t. recent editorial. (Posted by martin_kelley on 2008-04-30T20:28:36Z.)
Quakerthink Kevin with the scary tale of the Curse of the "Early Friends"
The problem with the Curse of the Early Friends is that very soon it seems to becom. metric. canon, an instant tool for assessing the validity of an assertion. Folks, not one of the Early Friends ever experience. flush toilet, either. (Posted by martin_kelley on 2008-02-26T16:21:06Z.)
A Snapshot of Friends in the Americas from Friends Journal
The general secretary of Friends World Committee for Consultatio. Section of the Americas, Margaret Fraser, looks at the trends of Quaker meeting membership (FUM, FGC, EFI, Conservative, and independent; programmed and unprogrammed) in the Americas over (Posted by friends.journal on 2008-01-31T14:34:27Z.)
Robin recommends Drayton's "Getting Rooted" pamphlet
One of the best points for me was about maintaining the balance between finding our roots but not idolizing the past. It's good for anyone who ha. tendency to think all the really good Quakers died before 1800. (Posted by martin_kelley on 2008-01-25T23:59:35Z.)
Will T explains Quaker perfection to the NFL crowd
Say that sin is like committin. penalty. You, even your whole team could play an entire game without havin. penalty called on them. In that regard you have played perfectly. But you might have fumbled the ball, thrown interceptions... (Posted by martin_kelley on 2008-01-18T12:42:23Z.)
Light Simon on "deification" theology in early Fox
It all depends, however, on how we read [it]. If "dwelling in the light" is bein. nice person, following God's commands, and otherwise being respectful o. power then this is no. text about deification. This light seems, however, to be transforming. (Posted by martin_kelley on 2007-12-23T18:44:37Z.)
Liz posts Marshall channeling "Early Minsiter" reminding us who's in charge of gospel order
Just speaking personally, it seems to me that the answers to all these questions become fairly obvious, once we understand that it is God who is in charge and not ourselves! (Posted by martin_kelley on 2007-12-06T01:35:06Z.)
Light and Silence Simon on early Friend's embarrassing ethusiasms
George Fox spen. substantial part of his early career facing down blasphemy charges. Perhaps more important, later Quakers (including Fox, to some extent) played down some of the things Fox said that got him into this trouble in the first place. (Posted by martin_kelley on 2007-11-16T14:02:22Z.)
Will T on Barclay's "Day of Visitation"
"The basic idea... is that there i. period of time in everyone's life when they are open to hearing the voice of the Divine and acting on it. If they are attentive and obedient to this Divine Seed, it will grow and flourish in them..." (Posted by martin_kelley on 2007-09-26T15:40:57Z.)
Chronicler on spiritual gifts
"[T]he purpose of spiritual gifts is to direct the recipient to Christ Jesus (the giver of the gift), not to the practitioner. Always measure thy faithfulness against thy callin. never measure thy faithfulness against that of another person." (Posted by martin_kelley on 2007-08-24T12:44:34Z.)
Martin K: What Convergence means to Ohio Conservative
'it's useful to learn that there'. growing movement of Friends from outside Conservative circles (however defined) who are sensing there's something missing and looking to traditional Quakerism for answers.' (Posted by lizopp on 2007-08-08T13:02:27Z.)
Claire: NCYM(C) Yearly Meeting Sessions and YAF panel 2007
'Wha. do remember is having the opportunity [o. panel of YAFs] to name issues tha. had growing up in my home meeting, and to name things that prevent me from having conversations and relationships with older Friends.' (Posted by lizopp on 2007-08-01T12:14:30Z.)
Mark Wutka on visiting North Carolina Conservative a second time
"There were remarkably few conversations about 'what is Quakerism'.... For the most part, it was beyond that, and was at the place of 'are we serving God as best we can?'.. felt that there wa. good balance of inward-vs-outward service to God." (Posted by martin_kelley on 2007-07-17T00:56:42Z.)
Brooklyn Qr Rich on Barclay's understanding of sin and the fall
"For many Quakers it is an article of unofficial dogma that "Quakers don't believe in original sin", and some appear not to believe in "sin" at all... It may well come a. shock to se. discussion of "the Fall" in an early Quaker writer." (Posted by martin_kelley on 2007-07-13T20:25:55Z.)
Ohio YM clerk Seth H on the history of Conservative Gatherings and this year's plain contingent
"An interesting aspect of the worship was the mixture of plain-dressed Friends and those who did not wear plain clothing.... In fact, the number of plain Friends present was probably the largest such gathering of plain Friends held in many decades." (Posted by martin_kelley on 2007-07-04T19:51:59Z.)
Photos from the Conservative Friends Gathering 2007
At the 2007 Conservative Friends Gathering in Lancaster County, PA, hosted by Keystone Fellowship Friends Meeting. via QuakerQuaker.org (Posted by martin_kelley on 2007-07-04T19:51:45Z.)
ConservativeFriend.org report on recent gathering
"The whole point of the Gathering is to worship together, to eat together, to speak, pray.., and to build bridges among us to link us across the larger distances that Conservative Friends now travel to meet in this way." via QuakerQuaker. (Posted by martin_kelley on 2007-07-04T19:51:34Z.)
Conservative Friends Gathering, 6/22-24, 2007
South Central Pennsylvania: "Time simply to walk and talk, share experiences, give and receive eldership and counsel." (Posted by martin_kelley on 2007-04-17T16:44:00Z.)
Wess on learning the language of other Friends
"Being there made me realize that many of the Questions posed by unprogrammed Friends are not the same question. have [and] reminded me tha. part of bein. 'convergent friend' is learnin. new language, knowing the language of the other is one of ou (Posted by martin_kelley on 2007-03-09T00:37:43Z.)
Marshall M on Friends and doctrines
"Yes, we don't have creeds. But no, we do have doctrines, dogmas, and confessions of faith. We once even ha. catechism. Permit me to explain." (Posted by martin_kelley on 2007-02-26T15:49:33Z.)
Mark W on Quaker texts online
Cites Google Books and Earlham's digital library (Posted by martin_kelley on 2007-02-22T16:40:39Z.)
Craig thanks his liberal Friends
'So, as 'conservative' a. am and as much a. get all bent out of shape with my liberal friends. love them. Today. give thanks for all those liberal folks in my life. If it weren't for all of you. would have never reached the contentment and jo. (Posted by martin_kelley on 2007-02-14T22:23:00Z.)
Quakerboy Craig on misunderstood Quaker faith
"There is hardl. Meeting that passes that someone does not refer to this 'God in everyone' idea. Yet, when we misuse the term, we rob it of its cleansing and restorative power. It becomes just another cute little idea and joins the ranks of other bumper (Posted by martin_kelley on 2007-02-12T21:07:54Z.)
Max Hanson on corporate discipline, Quakerism's "dirty secret"
"I believe there are many lessons to be learned by asking how Quakerism gave up slavekeeping... Unless the Society of Friends had been willing effectively to say, 'this is our standard of conduct, and those who do not abide by it are not Friends,' it woul (Posted by martin_kelley on 2007-02-10T17:59:52Z.)
Micah B on the spiritual forces of evil
"We cannot understand our calling a. community to b. spiritual army, following the Lamb wherever he goes, until we recognize the forces of rebellion and lust that assail us and the world we live in." (Posted by martin_kelley on 2007-02-07T16:19:27Z.)
Simon St.Laurent on Fox's borderline illiteracy
"Perhaps it would be worthwhile for those of us writing on Quakerism to reflect regularly on the limited value of scholarship in the remarkable happenings of early Quakerism." (Posted by martin_kelley on 2007-01-16T16:11:26Z.)
Simon St. Laurent recommends "Notes on George Fox"
Says New Foundation Fellowship's notes by Lewis Benson "ar. tremendous help in finding what Fox had to say o. given subject" (Posted by martin_kelley on 2007-01-11T21:20:02Z.)
Simon St.Laurent on Fox , the Trinity and explaining Quakers to other Christians
"It's clear that Fox didn't spen. tremendous amount of time theorizing about the Trinity specifically." (Posted by martin_kelley on 2007-01-11T21:18:13Z.)
Zach and the abandoned Quaker revolution
"I'll go on record as saying tha. don't think any Friend I've met or any branch truly knows that source now, not b. long shot, and that the assumption that we modern Friends can claim the earliest Friends as our spiritual ancestors has as muc. (Posted by martin_kelley on 2006-09-06T21:04:32Z.)
New Blog: Chronicler's Minutae from Seth Hinshaw
Clerk of Ohio YM (Conservative) hopes to blog through sessions: "I hope to post here near the end of each day to tel. little of what has happened for those interested Friends who are unable to attend." (Posted by martin_kelley on 2006-08-15T13:26:10Z.)
Simon SL on Woolman's ecumenical thoughts
Was Woolman the start of liberal Quakerism? (Posted by martin_kelley on 2006-07-25T13:20:01Z.)
Will T and Robert Barclay wonder how we know when it's God
"[I]n spite of all the questions. can testify that Robert Barclay is right. There are times that God has opened things to me an. have known them to be right. Sometimes they have been insights about myself... When this has happened there has bee. dee (Posted by martin_kelley on 2006-07-21T14:46:53Z.)
Charles of Living Water on some tensions between Christocentric Quakerism and activism
"This secular focus causes many Friends. fear, to forget that the battle between good and evil is not an outward political one any more than it is an outward military one. We must first be strong in our spiritual selves -. vessel for Christ -- empt. (Posted by martin_kelley on 2006-07-13T05:38:16Z.)
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